1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

Isn't that called overt exploitation?

Speak your mind.

5 minutes ago, rcuthbert said:

Speak your mind.

I have

6 minutes ago, morrobay said:

No those 711 employees are not what your seeing around Pattaya. As others noted these people now you see were never employed around here and shouldn't be here in the first place. There has always been these types here but the numbers are increasing. As well as the general population of lowlife thai males. Bad news

 

I'd say the lowlife Thai males headed back to the provinces with the working girls they are used to sponging off. I'm talking about the young guys hanging out in pool halls, driving around like street racers in pairs and sometimes being arrested for petty street crime. If the CCTV cameras aren't fixed now, City Hall better get the finger out and sort them when the bar scene reopens as I forsee the potential for a massive spike in street crime when they return.

5 hours ago, DEKEM said:

yeah.  it's bad.  people are suffering.  they have these food lines where dozens of people wait in line for free food.  I've seen the lines near bali hai, soi buakhao.  once near big c pattaya klang.  I see the desperation in their eyes.  they haven't become hostile yet.  but if this pandemic keeps going, eventually...

They are psychologically beaten and spent people.

Literally, at the end of thier tether. 

Better get accustomed to it.

If the ridiculous lockdowns in the west continue, it will be coming to a town near you.

 

Multiple off topic posts and replies removed, topic is about:

 

Pattaya's homeless crisis out of control

 

4 hours ago, NONG CHOK said:

The majority of homeless people in Pattaya, shouldn't be living there in the first place. Pattaya is not a place for these people at the best of times. I travel a fair bit and my cost of living reduces drastically when I leave Pattaya. I don't pay rent, I'm married so no bar girls and I'm a moderate drinker but I cut loose at times when I'm in my condo. The homeless people should be taken back to where they came from free of charge. One can only image the the diseases these people may spread the way they live. 

quote "The homeless people should be taken back to where they came from free of charge. One can only image the the diseases these people may spread the way they live."

 

That however will not solve the homeless problem. True that less homeless people will be seen in Pattaya because your option will not give them homes, food or a job, it will just spread them elsewhere to where there are less places for them to stay, less food available and still no jobs. 

3 hours ago, kinyara said:

I'd say the lowlife Thai males headed back to the provinces with the working girls they are used to sponging off. I'm talking about the young guys hanging out in pool halls, driving around like street racers in pairs and sometimes being arrested for petty street crime. If the CCTV cameras aren't fixed now, City Hall better get the finger out and sort them when the bar scene reopens as I forsee the potential for a massive spike in street crime when they return.

They are all ^ inclusive lowlife thai males by any category. Along the beach everywhere you look there is a sh*t load of them. Best solution: load them into trucks and take them away. Fascism isn't all bad.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, NONG CHOK said:

I'm married so no bar girls

????????????

 

Probably most bargirls' customers are married. ????

Isnt it like this all over the world for as long as humans exist?  

Only getting worse as there are too many people living on this planet.

The only country doing well, i think , is Brunei. Though sharia law put someway a hold on it

All other countries suck. The global system all countries thrive on has still not yet reached the limit.

But we are getting there one sunny day in future. 

San Francisco is much much worse then this place.  

And, they did away with any laws regarding defecating in public so there are piles of feces and urine smell everywhere downtown. Just pull down your pants and take a dump no problem.  

A shame, it use to be a beautiful city one of the best.  But, certain politicians seem to have ruined it.

 

I have not seen nearly the homeless or feces problem here thank goodness:

So far in 2021, San Francisco's streets have seen fewer reports of feces than both 2020 and 2019. An SFGATE review of 311 case data found that there were 13,856 reports of human or animal waste in the city between Jan. 1 and July 12, which is down from 16,547 reports of feces over the same time period in 2020

Thank you, CCP and comrade Xi.

This is your glorious work, supported by a hapless Government on the spot.

22 hours ago, rcuthbert said:

Wow! Brilliant sarcasm - combined with argumentum ad hominem! Your Grade 8 English instructors taught you some serious composition skills.

(Think before you reply.)

Well said.

On 8/28/2021 at 8:16 PM, ArcticFox said:

Los Angles without tents.  For every billion dollars earned by a Gate or a Benzos, or a Soros they leave in their wake a few hundred thousand casualties.  But hey.  The rich need more money than they can spend in a hundred lifetimes even though average people end up destitute and in abject poverty.
The benefits outweigh the risks don't ya know!

Touche!

10 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

One of my idiosyncrasies (of which I have many) is to pay more than a casual observance to the homeless and street people from all around the world.  By my estimation I would say that a good 80% of them on average have some sort of mental or psychological disorder, often made worse by drugs or alcohol.

 

Regarding Pattaya in particular, it is easy to differentiate the "routinely" homeless from those that have come upon hard times relatively recently due to the lockdowns.  The routinely homeless appear more comfortable with their situation and usually show behavioral signs of their mental disorder, are unkempt and obviously don't make cleanliness a priority.  The recent homeless have a look of total confusion, fear, and some embarrassment, are reasonably presentable and decently dressed, and often have amongst their observable possessions something that is of no use to them in their predicament, such as a mini ironing board, a crash helmet, a rice cooker, or a suitcase.

Very astute post ????

I was thinking similar before I got to it and have to agree with you.

That is NOT to say I don't feel sympathy for them - I do and videos like the one in this thread make me very very sad.

Boring video made pointless due to repetitive content, I saw the same people several times.

 

And people are starving, yet still the Beach Rd girls are getting fatter year by year ???? There must be some kind of inverse reaction at play here as it's weird that a large proportion of poor people are so overweight. 

When tourist areas are/have/had be operating  at a capacity that catered for the masses the "employment" was not rigidly  fixed to defined occupations in the sense of wage earners etc. 

Many many would have been eking out a survival lifestyle in many opportunist roles that would never be apparent to most tourists or even expats as a part of the overall "system" that made it lucrative and which despite retrospective judgemental complaint assisted in the success of. These same people  would have often shared accommodations  in conditions many here would not consider enough for a dog !

Now the accumulative capacity to pay for a shabby room that was shared by by upwards of 15 people as a typical example is  now  gone.

Even many of the bar girls many also seem to assume made a fortune probably appreciated  a few hours in a hotel room that provided a decent  bathroom and facilities as much as whatever level of payment they regularly received for being used or abused.

The entire concept of tourism has been disrupted from top to bottom at this time and while those at the bottom  are being flushed onto the streets there is a natural limit to those  who suggest they "go home" ! They  are home. But "homeless".

So how  bizzarre and ironic is that there is sure to be those who make that suggestion are at the very least indignant if  same is suggested to them when they harp on about negative perceptions of their seemingly abject life in Thailand. Worse still IMO are those that have already or long retreated to their respective  origins and  yet still come here to vent critically ! ****wipes!

 

 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, NONG CHOK said:

How many 7/11's have closed down in Pattaya in the past 6 months?

50% ?

2 hours ago, Inala said:

Boring video made pointless due to repetitive content, I saw the same people several times.

 

And people are starving, yet still the Beach Rd girls are getting fatter year by year ???? There must be some kind of inverse reaction at play here as it's weird that a large proportion of poor people are so overweight. 

Low cost starchy diets will do that to you.  You'll never feel full, because there's really no nutrition.  Just empty calories.

 

On 8/28/2021 at 12:48 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Yeah that's a fair reflection of Beach road and Second road. That seems to be where the homeless go to

Indeed, those are the places where food is handed out.. 

29 minutes ago, jomtienisgood said:

Indeed, those are the places where food is handed out.. 

Most food is handed out at Bali Hai where there's hundreds of people mostly who have parked their motorbikes. Beach road i see people sometimes stopping and giving food but not on the same scale, Second road behind walking st is where many homeless wait for food most days 

39 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Most food is handed out at Bali Hai where there's hundreds of people mostly who have parked their motorbikes. Beach road i see people sometimes stopping and giving food but not on the same scale, Second road behind walking st is where many homeless wait for food most days 

Second Road in front of the Aeroplane development space is quite a big one, went to Bangkok Bank beside there last week and there were significant numbers sheltering waiting under the empty beer bars opposite. Jomtien Beach Road between the turn and Immigration soi.

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

 

Cancer is not contagious.

 

 

The flu is not covid, just like covid is not Ebola.

 

Some viruses are more deadly than others.

 

 

And your point is?

Yes Ebola far worse. Covid is very mild for under 25yos. It kills old people.

Lots of off topic posts and replies about deaths from unvaccinated people, children dying from Covid have been removed.

 

This topic is about Pattaya's homeless crisis out of control.

On 9/1/2021 at 6:50 PM, Sparktrader said:

Yes Ebola far worse. Covid is very mild for under 25yos. It kills old people.

 

The Delta variant is not having serious health effects on young people.  

You know why I'm not homeless? Cause at a young age I knew if I didn't study in school, strive for a good life, assert myself in the work force, save my money, or was stupid enough to get addicted on drugs or alcohol I'd go nowhere in life.  I feel bad for the homeless, but personal responsibility has to be taken into account.

A "funny" thing about the homeless here on Pattaya's Darkside, they don't lay around in front of shops lying around all day like the brightside homeless, they make their shacks, huts, and hovels, plant veggies and do what they can to earn money (collecting bottles, plastics and cans).  Maybe the lazy brightsiders need to get off their butts and "work". 

9 minutes ago, bbko said:

You know why I'm not homeless? Cause at a young age I knew if I didn't study in school, strive for a good life, assert myself in the work force, save my money, or was stupid enough to get addicted on drugs or alcohol I'd go nowhere in life.  I feel bad for the homeless, but personal responsibility has to be taken into account.

A "funny" thing about the homeless here on Pattaya's Darkside, they don't lay around in front of shops lying around all day like the brightside homeless, they make their shacks, huts, and hovels, plant veggies and do what they can to earn money (collecting bottles, plastics and cans).  Maybe the lazy brightsiders need to get off their butts and "work". 

Could also be that you were born in an affluent Country with lots of opportunities to enrich yourself , something many Thais arent privileged to  ?

1 hour ago, bbko said:

You know why I'm not homeless? Cause at a young age I knew if I didn't study in school, strive for a good life, assert myself in the work force, save my money, or was stupid enough to get addicted on drugs or alcohol I'd go nowhere in life.  I feel bad for the homeless, but personal responsibility has to be taken into account.

A "funny" thing about the homeless here on Pattaya's Darkside, they don't lay around in front of shops lying around all day like the brightside homeless, they make their shacks, huts, and hovels, plant veggies and do what they can to earn money (collecting bottles, plastics and cans).  Maybe the lazy brightsiders need to get off their butts and "work". 

Guess you have had support to help you in life. Had 1 or both parents to rase you, had free good quality schooling, did not have a severe disability, were fed enough food to grow healthy, had medical treatment and someone to look after you and had security.

 

That is a hell of a lot more than many homeless people have had when they were growing up, especially here.

 

You and I were lucky. I doubt you would have the same simple and entitled views if you were born in poverty with drug addicted abusive parents and not enough food, had poor or no education, and were growing up in a slum in a 3rd world country. 

6 hours ago, bbko said:

Maybe the lazy brightsiders need to get off their butts and "work". 

For these people it's really to late to take that initiative. The city should start some well supervised public work projects together with some socialism.

5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Guess you have had support to help you in life. Had 1 or both parents to rase you, had free good quality schooling, did not have a severe disability, were fed enough food to grow healthy, had medical treatment and someone to look after you and had security.

 

That is a hell of a lot more than many homeless people have had when they were growing up, especially here.

 

You and I were lucky. I doubt you would have the same simple and entitled views if you were born in poverty with drug addicted abusive parents and not enough food, had poor or no education, and were growing up in a slum in a 3rd world country. 

Having seen homeless, children with no parent around, being looked after by other near destitute people, children abandoned by parents who cannot fend for themselves, let alone health care, food and education for children.

I do not think some acknowledge the absolute privilege many of  had when growing up, education, relative family safety, health care.

 

On 9/6/2021 at 7:18 AM, RJRS1301 said:

Having seen homeless, children with no parent around, being looked after by other near destitute people, children abandoned by parents who cannot fend for themselves, let alone health care, food and education for children.

I do not think some acknowledge the absolute privilege many of  had when growing up, education, relative family safety, health care.

 

 

Sure, but many countries have a government safety net for such adults and children.  Not so in Thailand.