Pattaya: "Popular" British pensioner gunned down on way home after just returning from UK Xmas visit

[Deerculler]

Never ceases to amaze me the number of Sherlock Holmes who appear and solve the crime.

Regardless of what you think of the police.

Leave it to the police and wait and see what they come up with.

A very sad situation.

[IvorBiggun2]

13 minutes ago, Henryford said:

One motorist once threatened to shoot me because i beeped my horn at him.

My wife keeps telling me not to sound my horn at other drivers for the same said reason. Unfortunately I can't help it.

[smedly]

2 hours ago, stupidfarang said:

what a load of rubbish, 

wow you excelled yourself with that one - I can see an up-coming spoon award heading for you lol

[billd766]

10 hours ago, Farang Thay said:

I wonder why that was? ????

Why would you wonder that?

 

Not every Thai wife wants to meets her husbands mates, and vice versa.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

18 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Really? No-one would get much from me dying. I guess you are a member of the 'All Farangs Are Rich Club'.

 

 

Not all of us are poor.

Not all of us are rich either. Saying that the death of a farang means riches for the locals is a rather silly comment.

[wealthychef]

On 1/6/2023 at 10:33 AM, HuskerDo2 said:

It said he had no enemies, yet he apparently wasn't robbed so the shooter was very deliberate in this shooting and wanted the man dead.

Well spotted sir.  Yes something is off here.  3 shots in 10 seconds is actually quite slow.  So deliberate, malicious if you ask me.  Yes, he must have had an enemy... Pattaya holds many secrets.  

[petermik]

The gunman has turned himself in to the Police this morning and admitted the killing of Neil due to a road rage incident.

R.I.P. my good friend Neil.

[Liverpool Lou]

20 hours ago, mancub said:

20 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He had been resting in his room as the OP link states.

Err, sleeping the OP Link states, actually .

"Sleeping" or "resting", whatever Google decides is the word it likes, he was doing it in his room, actually.   That's not on the job.

[mancub]

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Sleeping" or "resting", whatever Google decides is the word it likes, he was doing it in his room, actually.   That's not on the job.

Actually, the report, of which you are keen to throw at others, also states "in the room". 

If you're so keen to belittle others for not reading the link, then at least don't misquote that very link to suit yourself.

[Liverpool Lou]

6 minutes ago, mancub said:

38 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Sleeping" or "resting", whatever Google decides is the word it likes, he was doing it in his room, actually.   That's not on the job.

Actually, the report, of which you are keen to throw at others, also states "in the room". 

If you're so keen to belittle others for not reading the link, then at least don't misquote that very link to suit yourself.

I'm not "belittling" anyone, neither am I "throwing " anything at others, I'm simply pointing out facts as opposed to the falsehoods that some posters were promulgating.  The point is that he was sleeping/resting in his/a room, not at work as was being wrongly suggested.

Edited January 7, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[Cricky]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Sleeping" or "resting", whatever Google decides is the word it likes, he was doing it in his room, actually.   That's not on the job.t

My condominium complex, late  at night I see the security guards resting/sleeping in the swimming pool pump room.

 

[Kwaibill]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Sleeping" or "resting", whatever Google decides is the word it likes, he was doing it in his room, actually.   That's not on the job.

That had been my supposition. He was a witness of sorts and his employment  status doesn’t add much to the story, unless it is meant to imply that a security guard is a reliable source.

[itsari]

1 hour ago, Cricky said:

My condominium complex, late  at night I see the security guards resting/sleeping in the swimming pool pump room.

 

Thats what i would do on 400 baht a day

Edited January 7, 2023 by itsari

[tomyami]

idiotic sleep talk aside any more detail on the road rage would this be manslaughter or murder

thai land has this problem in spades

I ride a motorbike find its easy to turn an incident into rage more than my home country

[soi3eddie]

14 minutes ago, tomyami said:

I ride a motorbike find its easy to turn an incident into rage more than my home country

Maybe it's you. I ride a motorbike and occasionally drive in Thailand. True, other drivers maybe bad drivers but I find malicious road rage almost non existent in Thailand. Especially when compared to London and the UK. Jai yen yen... 

[tomyami]

1 hour ago, soi3eddie said:

Maybe it's you. I ride a motorbike and occasionally drive in Thailand. True, other drivers maybe bad drivers but I find malicious road rage almost non existent in Thailand. Especially when compared to London and the UK. Jai yen yen... 

driving here 14 years i tolerate awful driving daily (1) over taking on my right side when i am stopped and indicating to turn right at least 1 a week or (2) turn left and a motorbike shorting his right turn on the wrong side nearly crashing in to me all these are bad practice could easily spark rage if i outed a thai driver for this he could have a gun then I end up like this unfortunate guy.

If you don't see it I am sure others have here poor driver standards here are frustrating for first world foreign road users

Edited January 7, 2023 by tomyami

[silver sea]

7 hours ago, petermik said:

The gunman has turned himself in to the Police this morning and admitted the killing of Neil due to a road rage incident.

R.I.P. my good friend Neil.

As reported in the UK papers:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609131/Tuxedo-wearing-gun-fanatic-admits-shooting-British-pensioner-death-Thailand.html

[cheapcanuck]

RIP 

[gomangosteen]

45 minutes ago, silver sea said:

As reported in the UK papers:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609131/Tuxedo-wearing-gun-fanatic-admits-shooting-British-pensioner-death-Thailand.html

Note: Daily Mail is blocked in Thailand since 2014 for past publication of articles considered offensive regarding Thai royalty. Unless readers have a VPN or do not reside in Thailand your link is not available.

Edited January 7, 2023 by gomangosteen

[Denim]

1 minute ago, gomangosteen said:

Note: Daily Mail is blocked in Thailand for past publication of articles regarding royalty.

Past tense. No longer blocked.

[save the frogs]

sorry, just to play devil's advocate.

just because the suspect admitted it was due to road rage doesn't mean there wasn't another motive. 

 

[gomangosteen]

26 minutes ago, Denim said:

Past tense. No longer blocked.

Thanks. I switched to data on my phone (AIS) and the link works, however on home internet using the laptop (TOT internet) it's blocked. Bizarre.

Live and learn! Cheers.

 

[Sawasdee Bee Mai]

1 hour ago, silver sea said:

As reported in the UK papers:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609131/Tuxedo-wearing-gun-fanatic-admits-shooting-British-pensioner-death-Thailand.html

'The foreigner hit the horns and started banging on my car. I caught up with him towards the forest area and I stopped the vehicle.'
 

Why do Farangs insist on doing this in a foreign country,provoking the locals will only end in tears?

It reminds me of the video of that Aussie muppet the old geezer getting punched in the face by a Thai guy whilst picking his daughter up from school?

Everyone was berating the Thai guy until it turns out beforehand the Aussie halfwit had literally attacked the poor Thai guy’s car with a machete,he was probably very lucky that Thai guy wasn’t carrying or it may have ended tragically the same as here?

[Leaver]

 

On 1/6/2023 at 5:02 AM, JonnyF said:

Hope they catch the shooter. 

 

As well as the people who possibly paid him for the job. 

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

sorry, just to play devil's advocate.

just because the suspect admitted it was due to road rage doesn't mean there wasn't another motive. 

 

 

It's enough for the BiB to close the case. 

 

It used to be foreigners off the balcony, perhaps now it's road rage.  Both can conceal the true motive. 

[hotandsticky]

11 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Not all of us are rich either. Saying that the death of a farang means riches for the locals is a rather silly comment.

....and not one that I made.

[moe666]

No need to post any thing here all the Sherlocks have solved the case. Do you guys sit around at home dreaming this stuff up.

[proton]

3 hours ago, silver sea said:

As reported in the UK papers:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609131/Tuxedo-wearing-gun-fanatic-admits-shooting-British-pensioner-death-Thailand.html

He's going for self defence then- horn and his car thumped. He will be able to afford the best lawyers so he might get away with it. 

[itsari]

On 1/6/2023 at 3:22 PM, tubby johnson said:

Intrepid rookie agent Smedly of CSI Aseannow has solved the crime. The victim was shot miles from his home in order to steal £20k in cash .... from his home.

 

Case closed.  Move along, everyone.

Inspector Clouseau solved the crime have you know . 

[Cricky]

6 hours ago, Sawasdee Bee Mai said:

Why do Farangs insist on doing this in a foreign country,provoking the locals will only end in tears?

I see it way too often, it messes with my mind, why a foreigner would carry on like this.

 

I've thought about it many times, all I can think of is so many of these foreigners haven't grown up.

It's typical Pattaya, grown men acting like children, leaving their common sense at the airport on arrival.

Grow up people.