Thailand reports daily record of 15,335 coronavirus cases, 129 deaths

[wensiensheng]

8 minutes ago, LazySlipper said:

Geeez... thanks professors... it is implied that if someone tests positive they will double check at a hospital...

I don’t think many will go for a second test at a hospital. Firstly there would be a long queuing process. Secondly, if the positive is confirmed, depending where you are, you would be put in the field hospital regime. Might as well just isolate at home and save the hassle.

[James105]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Maybe you should have checked the date. 22/04/2020. Try again.

Nope - it was from 22 Apr 2021.    

 

[ThailandRyan]

8 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

Gawd, the sky is falling.......again - total and absolute destruction of Thailand is imminent. Tallied infections are totally irrelevant as there are too many variables in the process, this is a worldwide problem. Accumulated death are very low (56/1 mil, compared to over 1800/1 mil in the US, UK etc), and the daily tally is quite stable.

 

Thailand is doing a reasonable job balancing the hysteria with measures to keep a lid on the Covid spread, I hope they do not tighten any more, it just makes life miserable for most people.

 

 

Your joking right? This party is just getting started as Delta starts to cover the entire Country.  My Gf's ex, his wife and entire family including the GF's daughter are now all hospitalized for the second time with Covid in 4 months time.  The daughter who is 7 is alone in a pediatric hospital being treated for the first time as she had stayed with us until the family was cleared in June and allowed to resume life.  So again tell me how this is being balanced as it is spreading from household to household and infecting whole family while over 6k are still waiting on being admitted to a hospital for treatment as the hospital system is in near collapse.  

[wensiensheng]

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

Nope - it was from 22 Apr 2021.    

 

Isn’t that still pretty much pre delta and the “fleeting” transmission discovery in Australia?

[Swimfan]

28 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

These numbers are truly alarming, and you must consider this is only "confirmed" cases.  It's anybody's guess what the actual numbers are considering that many infected people don't yet realize they are infected.

 

The authorities need to pull out ALL of the stops now and quit pussy-footing around, simply blaming the rise in numbers to the Delta variant.  There are a lot more causes than just the Delta variant:

• Authorities (politicians) need to put all resources into securing and distributing  vaccines everywhere, not just Bangkok, and from all sources globally instead of continuing to favor home-based sources.  All of this talk about lack of supply is hogwash.  Worldwide, there are ample supplies available to those governments determined to get them.  What's lacking here in Thailand are politicians with the resolve and the determination to cut all the red tape and political shenanigans that are currently being played out.

• There needs to be an acutal halt to intra-provincial travel that is actually enforced, even travel between Deep-Red zone provinces.  The present travel restrictions and road checkpoints amount to nothing more than political bluffing.  Anyone who has travelled from Pattaya to Bangkok since they started knows they are not being enforced at all.

• The public also needs to take this much more seriously, and the authorities need to make sure they do.  There are entirely too many people walking around in public selfishly not practicing proper social distancing and mask wearing.

Who would have imagined one year ago when we barely had any cases of Covid that we'd be where we are today?

 

That is Delta for you. A variant that spreads so fast it makes contact tracing futile. 

[smedly]

30 minutes ago, The Cipher said:

I shudder to ask this, but what stricter measures have they even got left in the bag at this point? 

the single biggest measure that every country implemented was travel restrictions - poeple moving around the country and into the country 

 

Although they have travel restrictions in place they don't seem to be enforcing them with any urgency - that is a huge problem

[smedly]

18 minutes ago, LazySlipper said:

Geeez... thanks professors... it is implied that if someone tests positive they will double check at a hospital...

you are welcome 

[Denim]

Go to google maps and search Saha farms. They have several large chicken processing factories in lining route 21.

 

The one in the news is only being tested now because the local hospital informed the relevant authority of cases who had come to the hospital and tested positive at that particular factory.

 

So.....will they now test at all the other factories or just sit on their hands until somebody from one of the other branches turns up ill at a hospital.

 

Workers at those other factories might leave and look for employment elsewhere ( again ) spreading the disease further.

[dinsdale]

Just now, James105 said:

Nope - it was from 22 Apr 2021.    

 

Indeed and I have adjusted my post. Doesn't change the fact that the article is not about delta. 

This is.....

One of the world's leading epidemiologists and health economists, Eric Feigl-Ding, this week put Australia’s COVID woes on the international stage, highlighting cases of suspected outdoor transmission at the MCG and some early cases in the Bondi outbreak as particularly “worrying". 

Dr Feigl-Ding, a Senior Fellow at the Federation of American Scientists and former Harvard Professor, said the cases appeared to show transmission between strangers with no direct contact.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-23/australia-covid-19-delta-spread-gives-experts-insight/100313568

[morrobay]

59 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Well many on here have said 20,000 in August and it is definitely heading there. Now over 4000 deaths and tomorrow into the 500,000 club for total infections on the covid charts. 

From this work up on July 19 I got over 900,000 total infections in two weeks. So see numbers  on August 2 

 

[smedly]

25 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

It's not false at all.  The US managed to secure over 1 BILLION doses into their stockpile, and many other countries have been able to meet their needs as well. 

 

Thailand is NOT a third world country, despie what many people believe.  It is one of the wealthiest asian nations in the region, and has the financial resources to have handled vaccine procurement from the global market FAR BETTER than they have managed so far.

 

They  could have done far better had they not resorted to playing political games back in December when they delayed approval of foreing brands of vaccines as a tactic to favor home-based vaccines.  Even today, Thailand still plays these political games instead of just getting down to the business of getting vaccines into the country by whatever means possible.

 

Today there are supplies of vaccines out there on the global market for countries determined to secure them.  Thailand is NOT doing everything possible to do that, not by a long stretch.

it hurts them to spend money unless there is some flexible accounting included - China seems to be very fexible  

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, James105 said:

Nope - it was from 22 Apr 2021.    

 

I seem to remember an outbreak here in Phuket caused by an open air beach club event, only a couple of months ago. 

[Elkski]

I have never seen another countries or states case count go  up there n such a contained manner.   It's like the case numbers but resistance.  As if there is wide open, free and easy access to testing.  We have heard that hospitals stopped testing because they were full. Or out of test supplies.  I believe the real numbers are 2-3 times higher.   In the US you could schedule a test online at any test center.  Many are drive through  most pharmacirs offer testing as well as doctor offices. You still see trailers and staff parked in parking lots here and there.  The two I pass by have had zero cars numerous times.  

[wensiensheng]

4 minutes ago, Denim said:

Go to google maps and search Saha farms. They have several large chicken processing factories in lining route 21.

 

The one in the news is only being tested now because the local hospital informed the relevant authority of cases who had come to the hospital and tested positive at that particular factory.

 

So.....will they now test at all the other factories or just sit on their hands until somebody from one of the other branches turns up ill at a hospital.

 

Workers at those other factories might leave and look for employment elsewhere ( again ) spreading the disease further.

You would hope that by now factories would have been identified as high risk for Covid cases and frequent testing is taking place. But it seems probably not. My wife says 17 workers at a sugar can factory/refinery in Udon has 17 positive cases out of a workforce of 600. More tests yet to come back of course.

 

not all factories can be closed. But testing and safer Covid work practices ARE possible given the will to implement them.

[anchadian]

Bali faces oxygen shortage, as nearly 2,300 Covid-related deaths reported in Asean

 

The death toll in Asean hit a new high on Saturday, although there was a decline in new Covid-19 cases, collated data showed.

https://www.nationthailand.com/international/40003723

[anchadian]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 795 new cases and two more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (196), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (231), and Si Racha (182). The total cases so far is now 19,909 with 9,075 remaining in care #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1419091214540754948

 

Chonburi –

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced a record-breaking high of 795 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with two new deaths, July 25th.

 

This new high comes despite strict rules and restrictions that have seemed to be tightened nearly daily, such as closures of dine-in restaurants, entertainment, beaches, pools, parks, massage, malls, an overnight curfew, gyms, outdoor sports and stadiums, a ban on gatherings of more than 5 people, checkpoints, shutdowns of buses and most domestic flights, a ban on any gatherings around alcohol/parties, playgrounds, non-essential areas at markets and department stores, and more.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/25/chonburi-announces-record-breaking-high-of-795-cases-of-covid-19/

[smedly]

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Indeed and I have adjusted my post. Doesn't change the fact that the article is not about delta. 

This is.....

One of the world's leading epidemiologists and health economists, Eric Feigl-Ding, this week put Australia’s COVID woes on the international stage, highlighting cases of suspected outdoor transmission at the MCG and some early cases in the Bondi outbreak as particularly “worrying". 

Dr Feigl-Ding, a Senior Fellow at the Federation of American Scientists and former Harvard Professor, said the cases appeared to show transmission between strangers with no direct contact.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-23/australia-covid-19-delta-spread-gives-experts-insight/100313568

it was also recently reported that farting in a confined space could spread covid from an infected person - I kid you not, studies are now being carried out 

[ABCbangkok]

April 23, 2021, Nation Newspaper:

 

“The government aims to procure 100 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine for 50 million people before the year-end, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Friday evening.”

 

July 24, 2021:

 

“The news comes after the Prime Minister's Office on Friday said that 13 million more vaccine doses will be administered throughout August - 8 million AstraZeneca doses and 5 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine.

 

As of Friday, Thailand had administered approximately 15.4 million vaccine doses.”

 

Dec 24, 2021:

 

“Prime Minister Prayut Cha-o-cha announces that he has ordered the Health Minister to investigate why only a total 20 million vaccine doses have been administered this year. He has also asked his top advisors and business leaders what else can be done to lower the daily infection from 40,000. He is asking the people to strictly follow current restrictions.”

 

 

[The Cipher]

33 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

You need to think in a wider context cipher. You seem to be thinking in terms of restaurants, cafes, discos and bars. Or have I got that wrong?

Have you gone outside in a dark red zone? Literally everything is closed except grocery/convenience stores and pharmacies.

 

I can't even go try on a pair of sneakers and most Thai government services (like passport renewals) are closed too. I don't live near a beach but remember reading that it's now illegal to even go for a walk on one? What's even left to close.

[James105]

14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Indeed and I have adjusted my post. Doesn't change the fact that the article is not about delta. 

This is.....

One of the world's leading epidemiologists and health economists, Eric Feigl-Ding, this week put Australia’s COVID woes on the international stage, highlighting cases of suspected outdoor transmission at the MCG and some early cases in the Bondi outbreak as particularly “worrying". 

Dr Feigl-Ding, a Senior Fellow at the Federation of American Scientists and former Harvard Professor, said the cases appeared to show transmission between strangers with no direct contact.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-23/australia-covid-19-delta-spread-gives-experts-insight/100313568

You seem to have missed out this part from the link you provided:

 

Victoria's COVID-19 response commander Jeroen Weimar said transmission of the virus at the MCG most likely happened when the positive case went to the bar or the toilet.

[James105]

From here in the contact tracing bit: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/25/chonburi-announces-record-breaking-high-of-795-cases-of-covid-19/

 

Risky occupation, meeting a lot of people - 27 cases

 

Presumably this isn't just the one very busy girl that has infected 27 customers, but many girls infecting many customers?  

[bkk6060]

15 minutes ago, smedly said:

it was also recently reported that farting in a confined space could spread covid from an infected person - I kid you not, studies are now being carried out 

It is air being released like breathing or coughing just comes from a different space.  So, makes sense.

 

Australian physician Dr Andy Tagg pondered whether flatulence itself is an aerosol-generating procedure, to which he concluded yes, showing that the novel coronavirus had been found in the faeces of 55 per cent of COVID-19 patients and that "small faeces particles like 'aerosolized faeces' among fart gases could also spread the virus."

Edited July 25, 2021 by bkk6060

[anchadian]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Vaccination confirmation. Bangsue.

You have a visitor today.

I will join the busy Director and staff of Bang Sue Grand Station Vaccination Central Center at 4PM today to monitor the inoculation of foreign residents in Thailand. They would be the 75+ who can walk in and the 60-74 age group who had PREVIOUSLY registered. #vaccination

https://twitter.com/SangratTanee/status/1419118066110140419

 

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, The Cipher said:

Have you gone outside in a dark red zone? Literally everything is closed except grocery/convenience stores and pharmacies.

 

I can't even go try on a pair of sneakers and most Thai government services (like passport renewals) are closed too. I don't live near a beach but remember reading that it's now illegal to even go for a walk on one? What's even left to close.

Yes I have gone outside in the dark red zone and here (Sumut Sakhon) it's like any other day even the diamond shop is open. During the wk banks close at 2:30. The wet market is closed due to covid. I did, however, go to Tesco on Friday and absolutely everything except the supermarket section was closed. Indeed I'm about to go out soon. I fancy a pad kapeow moo sap kai dow.

[Enzian]

There's a limit to how much it makes sense to discuss what exactly went wrong, because TIT and there are major things which we cannot know and will probably never know, so one can have opinions, and that's it. Like the origin of the infection: China has data and records which they will never release, so any conclusions will be circumstantial unless a valid whistleblower some day shows up. 

I can say this because I took a plane out 10 days ago. I have some survivor's guilt, but CA ain't perfect either, and when you're over 80 you gotta do what you gotta do. It makes me angry, really really angry.

Edited July 25, 2021 by Enzian

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 hour ago, The Cipher said:

I shudder to ask this, but what stricter measures have they even got left in the bag at this point? 

 

Measures taken have already turned what was a nice place into a dystopian hellhole of boredom. What is there even left to close?

one army general stated clearly that next stage is wuhan style lockdown. in this case,

he explained clearly, all supermarkets will be closed and food will be delivered to

the arrested people. makes me think of wanting to leave thailand all together.

[Almer]

Idiots, the numbers in Bkk are slowing and rising in the provinces

[dinsdale]

10 minutes ago, James105 said:

You seem to have missed out this part from the link you provided:

 

Victoria's COVID-19 response commander Jeroen Weimar said transmission of the virus at the MCG most likely happened when the positive case went to the bar or the toilet.

It's airborne and highly transmissable. They are not saying fleeting transmission for the fun of it.  You believe what you want.

July 13, 2021 -- In April, 92 people gathered in Texas for a wedding. To lower the chances of COVID-19 infection, the festivities were held outside under a large, open-air tent. All 92 guests were required to be fully vaccinated.

Despite those precautions, six people tested positive for the coronavirus and one of them died, Forbes magazine reported, citing a preprint published in medRxiv.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210713/delta-variant-vaccinated-guests-outdoor-wedding\

 

What's the bet they weren't wearing masks.

[anchadian]

The latest map for #Thailand shows every province has at least one #COVID19 case today. Three provinces (green) have 1-10 cases, 19 provinces (yellow) have 11-50 cases, 17 provinces (orange) have 51-100 cases and 38 provinces (red) have more than 100 cases.

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1419144569321529344

[The Cipher]

4 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

makes me think of wanting to leave thailand

Do it. I've got a flight out on the 7th. Would have left sooner, but gf needs to renew her passport before flying.

 

If you go outside and the 'it's time to leave' alarm bells aren't going off on max volume right now, then I don't know what it'll take. Can always come back when the situation improves here, probably in a few months after good vaccines arrive and save these people from themselves.